People Telecom retails Telstra ADSL2+

Mid-tier telco People Telecom today said it would soon start selling ADSL2+ broadband services based on Telstra's wholesale platform, making it the first telco to do so.

Telstra has for the past several years demonstrated an unwillingness to wholesale ADSL2+ services to other telcos as it does ADSL1, as rivals like iiNet and Optus are speedily rolling out their own ADSL2+ networks. However, the nation's former monopolist has appeared to change its tune over the past several months.

Telstra has the largest ADSL2+ network in Australia, touching some 900 telephone exchanges. People Telecom is already an extensive reseller of Telstra services and inked a $200 million deal earlier this year with the bigger telco.

People Telecom chief executive John Stanton claimed the "high-quality" Telstra-based ADSL2+ service would allow his firm to debunk what he called some broadband "myths".

"There tends to be a consumer perception that all ADSL2 services are higher speed and higher quality, compared to standard ADSL services," he said in a statement to the Australian Securities Exchange this morning announcing the deal.

"That's always the case, because many ADSL2+ offerings in the marketplace are highly contended, low-cost products that actually offer slower speeds than, for example, a high-quality 8Mbps ADSL service."

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Talkback 11 comments

  1. ..huh? STRichmond -- 08/08/08

    I'm confused. People Telecom are offering ADSL2 services over the Telstra built network? Yet they are standing there saying ADSL2 is actually worse than ADSL1 in most cases?...huh?

  2. "high quality" Anonymous -- 08/08/08

    Perhaps he means the "sub-standard" non-Telstra ADSL2+ services are slower than "high-quality" Telstra ADSL1 service. And that therefor "high-quality" Telstra ADSL2+ must be even better still!

    Perhaps it only makes sense once you've bought Telstra shares...

    1. Loser Anonymous -- 08/08/08

      ADSL2+ has a much more rapid speed degradation over distance, in fringe areas ADSL1 will outperform ADSL2+, that is simply what they are saying.

      Some people simply want to turn everything into a fight, in this case you LOSE so you can go home and cry to your mummy.

    2. Wierd STRichmond -- 08/08/08

      The whole thing is confusion. I still don't get it. John Stanton says his firm can debunk the myth that ADSL2 is better than ADSL1, when in relatity (in his opinion) it is not. Yet he says that they will now be offering Telstra built ADSL2 services? How do those two statements go together?

      Furthermore, where are these ADSL2 plans? They do not exist in the site in any form.

    3. Do not exist? Anonymous -- 08/08/08

      That sounds like all of the wonderful things that Optus, Powertel, Primus, Terria, Opel, Rerquest, Simon Hacket and many others announce. They do not exist.

      An announcement is just that we will be doing ...

      Difference is in that case it is real while most of the entities mentioned above have no intention of following through.

    4. Confused reality Anonymous -- 09/08/08

      "in fringe areas ADSL1 will outperform ADSL2+"

      Hate to burst your bubble, according to Internode's ADSL speed graph, it shows that fringe areas between 4.1km and 4.9km is the only distance that ADSL1 outperforms ADSL2+ by the narrowest of margins.

      http://www.internode.on.net/residential/internet/home_adsl/extreme/

      From 4.9km to 5.4km ADSL2+ outperforms ADSL1.

      From 5.4km to 6.2km ADSL1 does not exist, yet ADSL2+ provides a working signal.

      Please get your facts correct before posting on a public news site.

      Thank you.

  3. What about those connected to a RIM ? Anonymous -- 09/08/08

    "Telstra has the largest ADSL2+ network in Australia, touching some 900 telephone exchanges. "

    And Telstra also has the largest network of RIM's in Australia. (This they can not deny)

    Pity that ADSL2+ will not work for those people connected to literally many thousands of RIM's all across Australia.

    Roll out an affordable wireless solution for all Australians!

    1. Why is it Anonymous -- 10/08/08

      that every second story about ADSL results in some cry baby that complains they are on a rim and can't get ADSL? I was am on a rim and put up with no ADSL for a few years, about 2 years ago they upgraded the RIM with a box that allowed me to have ADSL. They could not have predicted these issues 20 years ago when they were putting in the rims but at least they are leading the way with the number of exchanges and trying to fix their past mistakes and plan better for the future.

    2. Competition in ADSL2 Anonymous -- 10/08/08

      God to see that there is real competition in ADSL2 market!!!

      People Telecom...nice name!!!

    3. Reply to "Why is it" Concerned Internet User -- 11/08/08

      "Why is it that every second story about ADSL results in some cry baby that complains they are on a rim and can't get ADSL?"

      Without resorting to childish tactics, the reason why is it was more cost effective to roll out thousands of rims around the country, than invest in proper infrastructure.

      Reason why so many complain about rims's, is because there are so many out there! (Obvious fact by the many who are complaining!)

      Again, you forget what the previous person posted, you will not be able to get ADSL2+ whilst connected to the many thousands of RIM's around the country!

    4. to Concerned Internet User Anonymous -- 11/08/08

      Your last sentence is completely incorrect.

      There is a device called a Mini Mux which is physically installed in the same location as the RIM, this takes the last mile copper (rim to house) and aggregates it at that point then aggregates and transmits the signal across a single fiber.

      Some rims are not physically capable of hosting the device (space is the most common problem) but in many areas there is not enough demand to connect an expensive (~$50,000) device and manage it to provide services for a small number of possible subscribers. This is one reason why they were encouraging people to register for ADSL so they could prioritise but now with FttN coming they will not be rolling out any more in the short term.

      Mini Mux is actually the same concept behind FttN, the only difference is that there will be much more bandwidth allocated on the fiber as well as using no less then VGDL speeds to the homes.

      Facts are facts and misinformation is misinformation, I know there is one extra letter but should I call you miss?

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