Unis tackle student shortage catastrophe

Today 38 Australian universities held their first joint meeting to tackle what some have described as a "catastrophic" drop in the numbers of Australian students enrolling in information and communications technology courses.

From 2001 to 2007, domestic student ICT enrolments across the country have fallen 50 per cent, while the demand for talent by industry has climbed.

In response, the universities have founded an action group, the Australian Council of Deans of ICT, to stop ICT students becoming an endangered species.

"A 50 per cent drop in students is catastrophic," interim president of the council, University of Wollongong Professor Joe Chicharo told ZDNet.com.au, adding that it wasn't only the volume of students that had dropped, but also the quality, as IT was passed over by the best and brightest.

Janet Verbyla, dean of sciences at the University of Queensland, and interim executive of the council, said that without a rise in the number of students, increasing skills in Australia into a knowledge economy would stumble.

"We're going to become a country that imports innovation and IT services," she said. "If you're just a nation of others' products it becomes a matter of national debt ... and national pride."

But the new council, with representatives from 38 Australian universities, wouldn't stand aside as this happened, according to Verbyla. She said it would speak on behalf of ICT as the universities underwent the federal government's Bradley higher education review, announced in March, and actively pursue funds for the discipline.

Chicharo didn't say how many students the council wanted to draw to IT, but said he hoped to move the universities away from "boom and bust" where they had a glut of students in one period of time and a severe shortage in others.

In the last glut, Verbyla said the universities could have done with a united body, but everyone was so strapped for funds with the extreme numbers of students that it wouldn't have been possible. However, in the shortage, industry figures like IBM, Accenture and Google has pushed the universities' hand. "We were kind of told we had to do it," Verbyla said.

In its first meeting, the council proposed to elect a permanent chair and executive team as well as talking budget, constitution and forming an action plan for the coming year.

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Talkback 15 comments

  1. bad writer ! no buscuit ! Anonymous -- 25/07/08

    your spelling is a catastrophE

    1. Fixed Renai LeMay -- 26/07/08

      Thanks! We have fixed it.

      Cheers,

      Renai LeMay
      News Editor
      ZDNet.com.au

  2. What crisis? Anonymous -- 25/07/08

    I find incredible that these deans can't see the real reason why IT is shunned: jobs!!!! With outsourcing and the importation of 3rd world labor, why would anyone do a difficult course only to end up doing menial jobs because the IT graduate is not considered "talented". Let's be honest here, the unis don't want to lose the revenue that comes from the government for every 'bum' that occupies a seat in the lecture theatre. Businesses have shown through there actions that it is cheaper to use foreign labor or outsource the work in order to increase profits. If you love your kids, STEER THEM AWAY FROM ANY IT COURSE!!!!!

    1. reasons xBeanie -- 26/07/08

      I doubt that most school kids or their parents are that much in touch with the IT industry that outsourcing is a direct cause of them choosing not to do IT.

      When I did my IT degree their were two main types of student:

      1) Those who were doing it because they thought the money was good. These days you dont have so many making the big money (yes, partly due to outsourcing but partly due to it not being a niche industry anymore too).

      2) Those, like me, who had an inherent interest in and afinity with technology. These days you dont need to tinker with computers as much as I did when I was 13. You dont have to think of creative ways to squeeze the last drop of that 640K RAM. Its cheaper to get the shop to build the PC than do it yourself. It is difficult to write software that is worthwhile without a team of 50.

      IT now is seen like Engineering or Science but suffers from an image problem. With perhaps the most pervasive image associated with IT being the computer gamer, IT is seen as an industry of kids and geeks. With school leavers wanting to see themselves as growing up it is no wonder they are shunning IT.

    2. Labour offshoring is the real problem here Gary Allardyce -- 27/07/08

      I agree with anon. With companies like Telstra, NAB, ANZ, Westpac, etc all sending local IT jobs to India and other cheap labour markets will only lead to short term increase in profit. What does it do to the local community from which they rely on for sales??? I have been in software development for 30 years, and today there are no jobs left in Australia for someone with my experience. I now have to source my work in overseas markets. I recommend that students steer away from IT courses - it will be a waste of time.

  3. Student Shortage Anonymous -- 27/07/08

    Why would anyone want to go the Uni now anyway. My daughter at 40, after taking a while to do her degree part time/full time has a HEX debt that will go on into her 50's.

    And am in agreement with other talkback, why slug it out for 3-4 years, have huge debt then not get employment.

  4. Labour offshoring is not the real problem Brad -- 28/07/08

    I disagree with those who have commented that labour offshoring is the real problem.

    As someone who works in a professional capacity in the IT industry, I can tell you there is a serious skills shortage and high demand for capable employees. Sure, offshoring may have reduced jobs available in certain areas, but demand remains strong for good people Australia-wide.

    I agree that the IT industry is still suffering from image problems. As IT evolved as an industry, too much focus was placed on the technology itself. Hence, some of the image problems IT has had. In a commercial sense, IT is about solving business problems through technology.

    The best IT people can operate with business and technology, driving real value-add solutions. Perhaps this should be the focus of efforts to boost the number and value of IT graduates?

    1. re: Labour offshoring is not the real problem Anonymous -- 28/07/08

      "I can tell you there is a serious skills shortage and high demand for capable employees."

      Ah yes, the old 5 years experience in whatever the latest fashionable product is from some vendor or another. A fortune on degrees and certifications, everyone aboard the gravy train except the poor schmuch doing the work.

      I do not believe the IT skills shortage is a function of capable workers but rather a function of capable managers. If the deans of our esteemed learning institutions wish to help fix IT they need to start in the business and HR courses.

  5. IT is too broad & not enough money Anonymous -- 28/07/08

    There are a couple of problems as I see it.

    One: the term IT (ICT, IS, whatever) is too broad and collectively refers to a range of fields (software development, Network Engineering, Systems Administration, etc.) We need more specialised degrees or at least more specialised majors that are standardised across institutions and recognised by industry.

    Two: I spent three years getting a B. IT. When I graduated I got a job in support. Where do I go from here? You tell me. There's no career prograssion from support, yet companies expect qualified people whom they can pay bugger all to do the job. My brother finished high school last year and got a job doing support, getting paid the same as I am. Why the hell did i get a degree (and a HECS debt)

  6. IT skill shortage? Anonymous -- 29/07/08

    No not really. More to do with the fact that employers will outsource or offer very low wages to local staff while demanding degrees, certifications and many years of experience. There is no point to getting a degree when it is valued less than someone with a industry certification in the latest flavour of software. Unlike other industries such as law there are no barriers to entry and so you can be a gardener one day and a software developer the next.

  7. IT Skills Shortage... Shenanigans Ranier Wolfcastle -- 29/07/08

    Brad,

    For there to be a skills shortage, there must be a commensurate rise in wages for said skills.

    In the absence of wage rises far exceeding the prevailing rate of inflation, I have to call shenanigans on your claims.

    The skills shortage is a product of short sighted management (5 years experience in the latest skill), and the brain child of the recruitment industry (and other employer groups) who profit handsomely from importing cheaper talent from overseas on the back of the so called "skills shortage".

    I think it's less of a "skills shortage" and more of a "skills at a price shortage". It's like me proclaiming a shortage of Sydney Harbour Front Mansions for less than $1 million.

    Young people of today have a LOT more information available and they are simply abandoning an industry that is in a constant race to the bottom.

    Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself; knowing what I know, would I still choose to study IT today?

  8. same old rubish different packaging Anonymous -- 29/07/08

    There is no skills shortage.
    There is no demand because there is no need, there is only ever knee jerk reactions by people who dont really understand tecknology OR do but forgot the opportunities that were given to them when they started out.

  9. Same old story? Anonymous -- 30/07/08

    It ALWAYS comes down to PRICE, which is a function of supply and demand.

    If demand is high (according to the industry experts), supply is low (according to uni's) then naturally expect the PRICE for a skilled IT graduate to be high, but this is clearly not the case. Companies pay peanuts for grads.

    IT workers in Australia are encouraged to compete with each other for better position, salary, image, etc in the employers eyes. Where does this leave the newcomers to the industry? On a sub $30k starting job with very little hope for the future.

    IT should have been about working together, but this industry has changed so much, the best advice would be to avoid the minefield to begin with. Let the seniors earn their $150k+ pay packets, once they die off, then companies might start offering decent pay for newcomers.

  10. Speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Anonymous -- 31/07/08

    One side of their mouth says there is a shortage. The other side says they don't really want to hire.

    Wanted
    Software developer five years experience in platform version X.YY (Only came out last year), SQL 2009 certified etc. etc. No! Plain vanilla university qualifications just won't do.

    Sorry Kevin, see, I can't get the developer with the required skills that I need that is why I need to import that overseas developer that will work for 1/2 the price of an Australian worker. You see sir! There is a real shortage. By the way ignore the fact that the job candidates to be hired have very few if any of the skills I was expecting of Australian candidates.

    I think its time that the government started to call the tune on these employers and began to put pressure on them to let up on the unreasonable work experience demands they make of would be job candidates.

    And I could ramble in s similar kind of vein for hours regarding this subject.

  11. its no wonder Anonymous -- 31/07/08

    youd have to be crazy to do IT tech now..

    not only will u be treated like crap as a nerd, expected to constantly run the cert treadmill and lose numerous night and weekends upgrading servers/software that cant be touched during normal hours you will also see the following unfold around you..

    * outsourced

    * noone will listen to your expertise i.e. " IT graduate: you really should back up that database - boss: my son at high school said its not necessary"

    * endless training to keep up with what is well known as a rapidly changing industry (meanwhile your tradey mates are out at clubs meeting women who actually think they are cool.. vs you the IT nerd)

    * if you are that keen make sure you get into sales or proj management.. i know several chicks who have no IT quals but are raking in 150k + OTE on the back of making tech promises she has no idea about (her only qual is nail manicuring)... and similar for proj managers..

    dont do it and get out now while you can

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